Its nice and making sense of what you have written so far, though I do share my own thoughts here.

Depends on the level of exposure, I mean to live with different races, one never realize how the other race’s living is like.

I was born in the small kampung in Pahang, somewhere just next to the rubber estate where majority of the rubber tappers are of the indian race. I used to grow up to play football at the estate, going to their houses for deepawali and sometimes, my mom will employ some of them to work in our plantation. Well, that was in 1978……….and now 2008, believe me, their 3rd generation is still there….tapping rubber trees…! Lack of opportunities? Lack of own initiatives? or lack of educations?

By the way, I am talking about the majority of them here.

Yeap, you are right, from the beginning, we all know the HINDRAF is already at the extreme end in its behavior and plus the 18 points demand as you narrated, things seem to be too much to be digested……but….., think of it in this way;
1. There must be a reason why the HINDRAF is behaving so – Think about it in the macro picture, brother. The ones well to-do is not the exact one that you are seeing….! Talk about the Indian student applying for a place in universities, colleges and those not Samy-related education centers…! They are out of caste, blacks, lazy, drunkards etc is the impression….and Samy don’t want them at all, as if they never contribute to making flyovers for HIM..! Why Samy only here, because the parent party dictated so!
2. The government – If still one denies the racial policy used by the BN to run the country…well, no point I narrated more here. To simplify here, races other than Malay is not BUMI and we don’t deserve any…got me?
3. What happened the kids are naughty? – We will tell them, correct them and guide them what is wrong or right….but did the government do so? Yes, but only to those cronies who claimed to represent the Indian community but never stepped a foot into knowing their problems. This is the most f***-up of all that we are facing in Malaysia. The Malaysians are used to meet the shitty need of our hopeless politicians.

18 points or 18 million points from HINDRAF don’t bother me, but to silent HINDRAF with the use of ISA, and not listening to their grudges is definitely not a good parent’s way of upbringing their kids.

For everything, there is a beginning..!
God saves Malaysians !

All of my indian friends from childhood days are very much better off from our father’s and grandfather’s time. They have a good jobs and their standard of living have improved from their childhood days. The only ones who are affected were those ignored by the indian community itself. There are the indian in the estates who were exploited by Indians managing the estates. Then there are the poor indians whose families are torn apart by the drunken head of the house and the surrounding which is not conducive.There are many more examples which i can quote that actually brought the downfall of indian community.

Let us ask ourselves sincerely, is not Hindraf a tinderbox?? Their views are extremely extremist and their actions are very erratic and irresponsible. If the government were to free the H5, then it would be simply granting them victory to do more damages to the country and very particulary to the indian society.
The goverment did the right thing in arresting the H5 and therefore prevented the country from being engulfed in a damaging situation.

The DPM has apologised on behalf of the PM to the indian community, Hishamuddin has apologised for waving the keris but when are the leaders of Hindraf going to apologise for tarnishing the image of the country.

Why till to-date, there is not even one opposition party leaders who is brave enough to question the Hindraf leaders?

What are they fighting for ?? Is their struggle really for the poor poor indians? How will their 18 points demand improve the lot of poor indians? What is their defintions of poor indians? How are they going to change the mindset of the indians if they keep blaming the govt for the problems faced by indians?
What is their vision and mission?
Have they forgotten that there are many more poor malays than indians as well as poor chinese too in this country??

Maybe perhaps if Hindraf is ready to apologise for their actions and ready to work with other parties e.g MIC, PPP, etc etc for the betterment of the indian community, then we can confidently call for their release from the ISA detention.

At the end of day, we should see and know the elements that is trying to destroy the peace and unity of this country and pro-actively reject the so-called elements that can destroy 50 years of nation building in a single day.

All i ask is that the society be informed of the true nature of Hindraf. Just as we criticise the government for their failings and shortcomings, let us also be fair to all sides and fairly investigate the claims of Hindraf in the so-called documents and memorandum it issued in december 2007. Let us not be freed from the chains of the ruling elitist only to be held hostage by the so-called “struggles” of Hindraf.

“This is an admission by a BN deputy chief minister that the prime minister can interfere with ACA work,” Chong said in a statement issued yesterday.

He also wanted to know if the same influence could be used on other persons such as serving ministers, or similarly abused. More at http://www.sapp.org.my